Welcome to the Energy Blog


  • The Energy Blog is where all topics relating to The Energy Revolution are presented. Increasingly, expensive oil, coal and global warming are causing an energy revolution by requiring fossil fuels to be supplemented by alternative energy sources and by requiring changes in lifestyle. Please contact me with your comments and questions. Further Information about me can be found HERE.

    Jim


  • SUBSCRIBE TO THE ENERGY BLOG BY EMAIL

After Gutenberg

Clean Break

The Oil Drum

Statistics

Blog powered by Typepad

« All About Ethanol Production | Main | Green Star Biodiesel Process »

June 07, 2006

Comments

Brianthesmurf

What does that "200 miles per gallon" really mean? How much coal or oil is being burnt to charge this plug-in hybrid.

It would be more honest to quote miles per kg of C02 produced and include the power station emisions (not much of the US total is produced by carbon free renewables).

And why did they have to use a 1985 kg SUV? Oh! of course the sponsor - silly me!

Stephen Boulet

Quoting x miles a gallon is still meaningful, since it illustrates how far your gas can be stretched. The kg of CO2 produced depends on where you plugged it in. If you were near the Hoover Dam, a nuclear plant, or a wind farm, it might be little.

I personally like average cost per mile, though you need to make assumptions about how far a vehicle is typically driven (when the batteries are drained and it is operated by the internal combustion).

I wonder how GM feels about a Toyota engine in their product. ;)

The big question is why can't GM do that?! Or put another way, what are the impedements internal to the company/board of directors that keep them from being innovative and losing market share?

Stephen

Michael Lawson

It seems more than a bit hypocritical for GM to be sponsoring this kind of "research". GM had a wonderful electric vehicle and then chopped them all up. When I see things like this, it all seems like a meaningless PR campaign.

Pablo

Nobody's ever made a "wonderful electric vehicle" because battery technology's never been wonderful. Some day.

You can't make pluggable hybrid designers responsible for choices made by utility companies. These teams are being evaluated for greenhouse gas impacts, so that's the best you can assessing them for that.

If you're that gung ho on greenhouse gas reduction, you're going to have your own renewable generating capacity at home, and charge your pluggable from that. Put your money where your mouth is.

politicaobscura

The post says, "Computer models run by the team" ... yeah, according to computer models I'm as good looking as Brad Pitt.... I'll believe when I see (but keeping my fingers crossed).

Brianthesmurf

"If you're that gung ho on greenhouse gas reduction, you're going to have your own renewable generating capacity at home, and charge your pluggable from that. Put your money where your mouth is."

Yes I am that gung ho - the contract I have with my utility company guarantees that they generate enough energy from renewable sources to cover my consumption. (http://www.greenchoice.nl/) Is this available in the US?

Oh and by the way I don't own a car - not even a plugin hybrid.

Cheers
Brian

patooker

Yes Brian, in New York I'm paying a bit extra to make ConEd give me electricity from wind.

Jim from The Energy Blog

The UCD team charges their batteries with electricity generated from their own solar panels. Standard commercially produced advanced li-ion batteries are available from Valance and Altair Nanotechnologies has preproduction batteries available for evaluation.

The comments to this entry are closed.

. .




Batteries/Hybrid Vehicles