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June 20, 2006



From the horse's mouth:



Although I wouldn't bother watching the flash animation on the process... its a little basic and doesn't give any details on the actual biofuel processing part.


It just makes me wonder why ethanol is even on the table when I read things like this. We go on about Big Corn and its lobby but if the feedstock for this is as diverse as BP claims then WHERE'S THE HASSLE?

The smell? Didn't stop diesel from being around for the last twenty years. Give me a break.

Jeff Olney

Some of us like the smell of diesel fumes, sir. =P

Why is ethanol on the table? because it's been around for so long. The plants are already there. No company has a monopoly on the ethanol business, or the ability to slap royalties/legal junk/etc. on the ethanol making process. This is all crucial when ethanol is now law in so many U.S. States.

And just like the fuel cell industry is going through the "dirty hydrogen" phase, this must go through its baby steps, too.

We will get there.


The differences between Ethanol and Biobutanol are huge. The corn lobby won the first round, however, Biobutanol will and should win the remaining rounds -- heck ya can't even transport Ethanol in an existing pipeline and Biobutoanl has a 30% higher energy content -- it's unfortunate the corn lobby pulled a fast one, however, retrofitting to produce Biobutanol will help.

Al Fin

The good thing is that BP and DuPont have the big business muscle to compete with ADM and the other multi-national ethanol conglomerates. Butanol is a superior gasoline replacement or additive, butanol is better in fuel cells, and butanol is a better diesel additive than ethanol.

For sipping, I prefer 12 year old Scotch, thanks.


The process yields not just butanol, but acetone and ethanol as well.

At the scale of BP's demonstration plant, this is well and good, but if you intend to produce billions of liters of butanol, co-products are a drawback, because you have to find a market for all of your products. You can't profitably make more butanol if you can't make butanol without making acetone, and you've already saturated the market for acetone. One definition of hazardous waste is chemicals that you can't sell.

Before biobutanol can become big, we need a way to make it selectively.

Now, semi-recently, a group at Ohio State demonstrated a two-stage fermentation where one Clostridium strain selectively fermented sugars to butyric acid, and then a second strain converted this to butanol. This, or something like it, could be the "second generation" technology they plan to deploy in the US in 2010, and if so, it would be news indeed.


Looking up in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanol
shows that Environmental Energy Inc. http://www.butanol.com/index.html is also making good progress on this. Runs in unmodified gasoline or diesel engines.


I don't see how some of you can bash the "Ethanol Cartel" and show preference for Du Pont and BP over the likes of ADM. I don't subscribe to the notion that corporations and especially oil companies are evil, but I'm no fanboy for any particular company either. Why on Earth would people root for, say, BP over the likes of, say, ADM? I definitely favor Butanol over Ethanol, but I don't want to see ADM collapse and an already large corporation swallow it up and come closer to a monopoly either. I just perceive that some of the comments I've seen here and in many other places kind of give ADM the short shrift and ascribe to them a lot more power and influence than they really have.


CEW has it right. I've been following www.butanol.com for some time and have to wonder if the company behind that site was involved in the Du Pont/BP project, or if they are now an unfortunate competitor. They have some very interesting material on their site on how their process works, some of the testing they've done on the fuel in regular unmodified vehicles, and the regulatory hoops they've hurdled. They also have a great packet of info on the trickle down economic effects of running a bio-refinery vs. imported petro-chemicals.

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we want the facts!!!

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I half own a land scaping buisiness with my friend, we have been looking for cleaner burning fuels for our lawnmowers and weedwackers will this stuff work in our equipment? and if so please tell me a place where we both can get butanol cheap...

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this is so good to see. i wonder it they will push this for the future.

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I don't know this is the way to go, this can cause the price of corn to be raise and, as we know everything has corn syrup this days.
I prefer Hydrogen cells

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I don't think for ethanol will also used for the as fuel.. In Automotive industry made good technology for all cars.. this is really great.

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vehicle modifications. The process yields not just butanol, but acetone and ethanol as well.


ethanol will also used for the as fuel.. In Automotive industry made good technology for all cars

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