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November 24, 2008

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Hi Jim from the energy blog, do you think you could list the comments in one long row rather than having to click to the next page? Just like in the old days...

It's better overview to have all the comments on one page. Can you change that, or is it a typepad default?

Derek D

"The C3 process is expected to be competitive with gasoline..." With the price of gas now below $1.70/gal locally this has got to be a much harder sell than it was a couple months ago. For people to invest in this technology the government is going to have to set a floor for the price of imported oil so people have some assurance of a market. If investors knew that the price of imported oil would not go below say $60/barrel there would be a lot more private money in these types of projects. And with government ownership of private companies suddenly all the rage we could let the oil industry invest the difference between market price and the gavernment set floor price in any renewables they like with government getting a 50% stake.

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Qteros? What, were all the other company names taken?

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I wonder if they thought that having "ethanol" in the name was a downside.

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"droping subsidies on ethanol"?? Hardly likely. To get elected POTUS, one MUST wave the ethanol flag and this is why Iowa is usually the first stop for a presidential candidate. Grain ethanol's subsidy may decrease, but it will never be eliminated. I also predict the government (viz., lobbyists) will ask for a bigger subsidy for cellulosic ethanol to speed up commercialization, probably $1-1.50 per gallon, which is in the same ball-park as the biodiesel subsidy.

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Historically cheap gas? Enjoy it while you can.

When oil got up over $120 per barrel don't you think every marginal well was brought back into service? Every rust bucket of a tanker that could hold more fuel than it burned on a delivery was set to sea?

Supply got cranked to max and then demand crashed. Lots of surplus product was ordered and now is being delivered. No place to store it, so sell some quick.

We're in a anti-bubble. Watch for the pop in a couple of months or so....

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Bob Wallace: I'm in complete agreement with your logic. But, I think the timescale for the popping of the anti-bubble is a bit longer. I would guess 6months to two years. Remember the old saying, "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent". I think it applies here. The anti-bubble price dip will likely last long enough to do real damage to production, alternatives, and conservation.

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If the Chileans can switch yuo ethanol so can the US.

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I don't understand why people are spending millions and moving mountains to try to achieve cellulosic ethanol.

After all, methanol can already be produced from any organic material, including switchgrass or anything else, including sewage or coal, TODAY, with NO FURTHER RESEARCH needed.

Unfortunately, other than a fleet of Ford metanol cars, and then methanol-compatible flex fuel vehicles in the 80s, most alcohol fuel cars are ethanol only.

This needs to stop. Any alcohol car than can run methanol can run ethanol too, and all other alcohol fuels to boot (propanol, butanol, etc.) So we need to demand, through law, that all flex fuel cars include methanol.

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I've read about how some biofuels, such those derived from jathropa, though renewable, can put out some pretty large quantities of co2. Anyone know of some good sources for reference, and any ideas on Qteros' numbers?

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ethanol is nice because it allows you to have something other than fossil fuels to burn, saving you money in a possible long term outlook. the problem is, ethanol is not that much cleaner, and it basically rapes the farming community unless you are huge. we already have too much corn: it's used in just about everything these days. i like the idea of alternative fuels, but the focus should be broadened to other, cleaner energies.

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Ethanol itself is a food. A third of a cup of ethanol daily, diluted in lots of water would be a useful caloric addition to many people's energy. To get a few vitamins and minerals as well in their diet, they can eat mud and chew tree leaves as they are now doing because of the high price of oil and food caused by petro-speculators ..HG..

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Does the implementation of the C3 Process work on current prices of oil? If it is economically viable at today's prices this model would become ever more profitable as time goes on. Already we see signs in the markets of the global economy is pulling out of recession which means that the price of oil has more than likely bottomed out at $70 per barrel.

The potential for this is immense.

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