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April 28, 2008

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Paul M.

Okay gents and ladies, you negect geothermal energy as a resource for base power. Wind is okay, coal is dirty but necessary, nuclear may be needed and who knows what else. Economics, not idealism will dictate how the energy crisis plays out. The solution will likely be a hybrid of multiple technologies, used in concert. Bravo to the town that uses windpower; but these folks may need something else to fall back on.

Information technologies to synchonize multiple energy resources in an efficient way are what we need and already have to some extent.

Let's pull our heads out of the clouds. Advocates of all these energy sources need to cooperate or we are going to really suffer in this country as China, India and other emerging (and voracious) energy consumers increase the demand for oil and conventional resources dwindle. If oil prices remain high, shale kerogen starts to look good. And what about gas hydrates further on down the line? We need to do something before major economics crises and world conflicts intervene. If we do not cooperate, the treaty not to tap Antarctica for oil/gas and other resources, might even be scrapped.

Bob Wallace

Where is the demonstrated geothermal technology (aside from the easy pickin's places such as Iceland and Middle California)?

Anyone got a drill-down geothermal plant on line?

Paul M.

Point well taken re: this Missouri town; geothermal options appear limited. But ground source heat-pumps could could increase efficiency and take the load off the electrical grid for heating/cooling purposes. In states like Nevada and worldwide in the "Ring of Fire", high temperature geothermal fields could be tapped to supplement wind and solar as base electricity resource. Aside from this there is possibility of low temperature heat fields being tapped via Rankin cycle technology.

At any rate, you miss my main point: The answer will come from not one, but many energy resources and we need cooperation, coordination and plasticity in our energy policy or we will be in deep trouble. Regardless of this cooperation, it will probably be be a bottom up building process with trial and error and economics will ultimately dictate how we handle energy resources in the coming century. If we recognize that this is not a zero sum game between competing technologies/energy sources, then we may save time and money getting there.

Bob Wallace

"The answer will come from not one, but many energy resources...."

There's pretty wide agreement on that. The only folks who seem to not grasp that concept are the people who declare that solar (wind, whatever) won't work because the sun doesn't shine 24/7 (or wind blow ...).

Geothermal for electricity production is very attractive because, if we could figure out how to make it work, would work on a continuous basis. And we could use a vast smoothing input.

But it's like fusion, ain't available at this moment in time. (Except for those places where the steam seeps out of the ground.)


Right now we've got to play the cards on the table. Wind is economically viable and solar is rapidly getting there (if, in fact, it hasn't already arrived).

Alex Stall

You have to say this is a step in the right direction, even if MJMU will be providing power when the turbines are not operating at capacity. The issue I see is that we continue to use the same old wind turbines, which have been proven to not be as effecient as other models.

Missouri Schools

wooo go missouri! you show those other states what you can do!
-Mike

dianne

I want to become a dealer can any one help out who to get in contact with?

Kit P

A dealer of what, the drugs that you are using that apparently do help with delusional thinking. Project developers contract with OEM to purchase wind turbines. Big energy companies with internal development groups have purchased the production capacity of the companies like GE. One of the interesting trends is that relatively small development companies are being bought by the large companies that have cornered the market on equipment.

Ogden Meyer Whitening

That's awesome, I didn't know any town was on full wind power yet. Is it still running today and beneficial to the town?

Steven Brinkman Energy Dr.

Wind Power is great I sell wind turbins for single family homes. Right now we are doing them for $15,000 dollors installed. These are skystream 3.7 they can produce 1.9 to 2.7 kwph. We offer lots of ways for all of you to save money check us out at energydoctorinc.com or email me at brinkmans4@socket.net

Jester James

I guess Missouri is trying to bring it to the rest of the world. Oklahoma University is going to be fully ran by wind power, if I'm not mistaken, by 2013. I hope it works out all right.

waltre

A process where warm seawater enters a vacuum chamber where it is flash-evaporated into steam, similar to the open-cycle evaporation process. The steam vaporizes the ammonia working fluid of a closed-cycle loop on the other side of an ammonia vaporizer. The vaporized fluid then drives a turbine to produce electricity. The steam condenses within the heat exchanger and provides desalinated water. The electricity produced by the system can be delivered to a utility grid or used to manufacture methanol, hydrogen, refined metals, ammonia, and similar products.

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A process where warm seawater enters a vacuum chamber where it is flash-evaporated into steam, similar to the open-cycle evaporation process. The steam vaporizes the ammonia working fluid of a closed-cycle loop on the other side of an ammonia vaporizer. The vaporized fluid then drives a turbine to produce electricity. The steam condenses within the heat exchanger and provides desalinated water. The electricity produced by the system can be delivered to a utility grid or used to manufacture methanol, hydrogen, refined metals, ammonia, and similar products.

Wind Turbine

The mid-west is seems to get all of the wind projects. Too bad we don't have any of these innovative projects going on in the south east.

Kit P

In general, the south east US has the worst wind resource.

charge controller

Yeh for Missouri to take a giant step like wind power. We need more of them. Our company, Powerplanted.com designed and programes a charge controller to be used with wind,solar and water. We aim to do our part in this battle against fossil fuels.

Rick L.

I wish we had wind projects from my neck of the woods. In the south, that does not happen. I am still happy for Missouri. If this concept ever gets to the south, I will be pumped up for it. Maybe someday. That would rule. Thanks a bunch, Rick Lanese

Cato Green

Thank you for your awareness and sharing. We all need to do some small part in living green. We invite everyone to participate in discussions of green living, and alternate energy, at waytogogreen dot org. You will also most likely be interested in a first hand report of the largest wind farm project in New York State at: http://tinyurl.com/5wyawb

Kit P

I did not find any 'living green' information but I did find a lot of advertising at Cato's site.

From the article, “1 MW of wind generation capacity is the equivalent of 1 square mile of new forest”

No it is not equivalent.

Put a 50 MWe biomass plant in the middle of 50 square miles of forest and you will have a beautiful place and a reliable source of electricity with a 99% availability when you need the electricity.

Bob Wallace

Kit -

Can you point to a site that does a good job of explaining biomass production?

I'd like to know more about sustainability in various climates, parts of the country that provide opportunity, that sort of stuff....

Kit P

Actually Bob I like the Energy Blog. The problem with sustainable biomass is that it is a very broad and complex topic. It is necessary to narrow the topic down a bit. I will provide a brief overview of my approach to sustainable biomass.

The first step is to identify local environmental problems. The second step is too identify the root cause of the problems. The third step is to find technical solutions that produce energy.

So while I have moved on from working actively on biomass, I still think biomass energy is part of a sustainable solutions. To be sustainable, maintaining the soil in different climates is key. Here is a good place to start on that issue.


“Soil Foodweb Technology is based on years of research by many different people. All science builds on previous science, the efforts of scientists to understand why the world works the way it does.”
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/03_about_us/approach.html

Md Sazzad Hossain(Graduate Student,UofW)

Great example of Renewable Energy Stand-alone Station.!but i think if there is a electrical energy storage system that would be a lot self-sufficient energy plant..isn't it.!!

Alexander

The whole truth about wind turbines is never told by lobbyists and governments.
How could the very weak and extremely unreliable initial energy source of a wind turbine ever produce a steady power of any significance?
Please think!
And read: “Wind energy- the whole truth” on
http://www.windenergy-the-truth.com/

Bob Wallace

"How could the very weak and extremely unreliable initial energy source of a wind turbine ever produce a steady power of any significance?"


Thanks for being interested. Here's your answer. Put together by competent people....


http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/winds/aj07_jamc.pdf

Jamie Roberts

I think this project is bogus. What's the point? I am not impressed at all.

Ralph

Missouri is setting the standard! http://www.mywindpowersystem.com

Ralph

Not sure if my first post went through but wanted to say that Missouri appears to be setting the standard! http://www.mywindpowersystem.com

EnergyChina

100% wind power?!

Wow!!

energychina

in Korea, one place is 100% solar. :)

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Wow! MO city, a shining beacon to the alt energy and green world? Who'd have thought.

gerry thompson

i like that you go 100 percent using wind power because it will really help us to conserve energy and to use our natural resource an important part of our daily lives.. wind power will help us for an alternative source of energy..i also recommend that you check the link below for more info about wind power cost...

http://www.windpowercost.org/

gerry thompson

Some amazing facts about Wind Power…

Myth #1 Wind turbines are very noisy. This is not true at all. In fact wind turbines are very quiet. The truth is your kitchen refrigerator may make more noise than these wind turbines.

Myth #2 Your Wind Turbine will affect your television.. This is not true as well. I will teach you where to place your turbine in order not to have this happen. With the right tools and instructions you will be an expert in no time, not to mention watching your favorite TV. show.

Myth #3 Wind Turbines don’t really produce enough power. In fact Wind Turbines can produce upwards of 85% power 24/7. Not even your power company produces 100% of power 24 hours a day.

http://www.windpowercost.org/
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http://www.windpowercost.org/

don bartell

go green!!!

Basically, wind turbines are machines that rotate whenever the force of the wind blows by it. It transforms kinetic energy into mechanical energy. The latter is then converted into electricity. The power generated is dependent of the actual wind power. The stronger the wind, the more power is produced. The wind is a very good source of power as it is available all the time. It replenishes very quickly.

Most of the time, wind turbines have 3 blades placed on the top most portion of a tower. They are designed to be placed on top so as to get maximum wind power.

With the skyrocketing cost of electricity, it is but practical to utilize the power of the wind in the form of wind turbines. Producing your own electrical power at home is very convenient and environmentally safe. Just imagine the amount of money you can save if you have your own wind turbine.

http://www.windpowercost.org/
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http://www.windpowercost.org/


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wowwwwww,
Missouri City Goes 100% Wind Power
every city should do the same

Kelly Fuller

Businesses and Homes Convert to Green Power
Miller Britzke (Alternative Energy Engineer) Helps Large Businesses and Homes Convert to Green Power...
I am an engineer who works with corporations to help them go green by converting to solar and wind energy. I know what it takes to create an alternative energy plan that works, and I know how to implement those plans.
As an engineer who works in the realm of alternative energy, there is one thing that often surprises me.The range of quality of information on how to go green is simply astounding. At least once a week, someone will ask me how they can learn how to convert their home, and answering that question can be difficult.
Simply put, there are literally hundreds of products out there that teach you how to switch a home to solar or wind generated energy. When you look at these products though, only a few of them are worth anything. Converting a home using professionals is an expensive proposition. To compensate many are turning to do-it-yourself books and making the move to go green on their own. With the wide range of information available, let's first discuss what a go-green learning package is and is not.
First, a program that teaches you to convert your home is NOT the only thing you need. To make the actual conversion you'll still need to follow the guide to building solar panels or windmills or both.
Second, NOT every home is appropriate for green conversion. If you live in an condo for example you don't have the surface area for solar panels, or the land needed to setup a windmill.
Third, a package that teaches you how to convert your home IS an excellent way to reduce and even get rid of that month power bill. In fact, if you do it right you'll likely generate more energy than you use, and the power company will have to pay you for the power you feed back into the grid. Best of all, if you choose the right methods to convert your home it can be done for very little cost to you.
Fourth, if you don't take the time to choose the right learning tools then you're just wasting your money. You even run the risk of creating problems for yourself when your real estate value drops due to the non-working solar panels that are covering the roof. Choosing the right tool to learn with is the most important step!
To help you choose a green power package that works, along with some friends, I have worked to evaluate the top five learning products on the market today. We based my evaluations on the following criteria.
Green Power - Obviously our main goal from any power generation project is to generate power. We tested how much power each solar panel and windmill could actually generate.
Ease of Building - With a package that teaches how to convert a home, the material should be clearly laid out, and the components should be simple to build.
Instructional Value - From the above criteria we gave higher ratings to those learning packages that taught us how to go green with ease. The best packages had everything clearly explained, drawn blueprints, and then further explained with how-to videos.
Cost Involved - The main reason people choose to convert their home themselves is to save money. We gave much higher ratings to the packages that taught us how to find parts for less.
Availability of Parts - Some of the learning packages we tested recommended parts that weren't available. We gave higher marks to those that used parts that were available to anyone (such as at your local hardware store)
Time Involved - How long did it take to build each component. We found this had a lot to do with how well the material was explained, but some of the plans just weren't simple enough.
Overall Rating - From the above factors we gave each package an overall rating. To follow you will find our ratings for the top five products that can teach you how to go green. With each of our evaluations we did take the time to build each component that the book/video suggested, and in the process we converted a home. I have many friends who have been bugging me to help them go green. Over a two month period of time (working on the weekends), that's exactly what I did. They paid for the parts and put in most of the work, I paid for the learning materials and helped them along the way. The clear winner from our evaluations was Earth 4 Energy, but the other four products that made the top five didn't fair too badly either. My recommendations are clearly laid out below, but if you do need any help choosing a package, don't hesitate to email me (a1servpro@aol.com) and I will answer any questions that you may have.Once you have your home running on green power, please do let me know (email above). I enjoy hearing stories from others who have worked to choose the environmentally friendly route to power their homes. To saving money and the environment, http://www.myhighqualityproducts.com/goinggreen/

Kelly Fuller

Gas Conversion (Hydrogen/HHO Fuel) Expert
Jason Tyler (Auto Mechanic Team) Gas Conversion (Hydrogen/HHO Fuel) Expert
As a certified mechanic, I know the ins and outs of cars. I also know how easy it is (or isn't) to perform certain conversions on cars, trucks, and big-rigs.
Ten years ago when I first started experimenting with the different technologies to achieve superior fuel economy, I just took it for granted that getting 50-80 miles per gallon (80 to 129 kilometers) was normal with the water/HHO system installed. Today, with the advent of people selling the do-it-yourself instructions to use water as a fuel supplement, I want to shed some light on what is and what is not possible.
First, it is NOT possible to drive completely with water (these vehicles are still in production and are very expensive). You will still need fuel. BUT, with the water being converted to hydrogen (also called oxyhdrogen, HHO or Brown's gas) and fed into the engine's air intake, your vehicle will get more miles per gallon (or kilometers per liter) of fuel and you save money on gas.
Second, it is NOT for everyone. If you do not spend more than $50 a month on gas, it really doesn't make sense.
Third, you may only get 50-60% increase in fuel efficiency and depending on your vehicle, engine size, your vehicle's increase in fuel efficiency will vary. Yet, with that said, we have had reports from USA and Canada of 113% to 279.3% increases in MPG. You still would have to buy gas each month, but your bill would likely be half to one third of what it is right now.
Fourth, in our tests of the some of the guides recommended by non-mechanics, some actually damaged the engine or destroyed certain critical engine components, which not only was expensive to fix, but VOIDED the vehicle warranty.
I and the other mechanics in our shop evaluated 19 different guides based on the following criteria:
•Mechanically sound design that will withstand daily use of the vehicle. •An increased gas mileage and money savings. •Very inexpensive and easy for a beginner. •Clean emissions (which help protect the environment). •Produce the maximum amount of HHO (oxyhydrogen or "Brown's gas"). •Work with 99% of new and used vehicles on the market today (including fuel/carb injection, petrol, gas, and hybrids). •Has successfully been used on vehicles around the world using petrol, diesel, or gasoline. •Faster vehicle acceleration. •Stronger torque or engine power. •Works in freezing temperatures. •Eliminates engine "nock" or "ping". •Does NOT damage the vehicle warranty. •Compatible with IRS requirements to REALLY get you tax rebates to pay for the conversion. •REALLY can be removed or installed in minutes from your car's engine compartment. •Eliminate carbon deposits from unused fuel. •You get rights to the system to build and distribute the kits for personal use or profit. Below, I give you recommendations of the top three conversion guides that my team has tested and that meet all of the criteria above.
Knowledge is power, and even if you are not an expert in cars, I believe you can do the conversion! I will even give you my email address ( jason [at] drivecarwithwaterandsave.com ) to answer any questions you have.
As soon as you install your conversion system, let me know (email above), and I congratulate you because each person who does this conversion is contributing to a cleaner environment.
To your saving money on gas,
Kelly Fuller (and team)
Moberly, Missouri

Ray Fuller

Missouri set for its largest wind farm -

Missouri aims to move forward with efforts to meet 15 percent of its energy demand with renewable resources through a 100-turbine wind farm, read more...

Ray Fuller

The House of Representatives has passed an Energy Bill for Renewable Energy

The United States House of Representatives has passed an Energy Bill requiring utility companies to produce 15 per cent of their electricity from renewable sources such as wind and solar power by 2020.

The Bill passed in the House on a 241-172 vote, despite strong opposition from electric utility companies and the White House, which has threatened to veto the measure. Twenty six Republicans voted in favor and nine Democrats opposed the bill.

A senior analyst for Lazard Capital Markets described the bill as "a significant positive step towards creating a cohesive energy policy."

The renewable electricity standard applies only to investor-owned utilities and exempts rural electric cooperatives, municipal utilities, the Tennessee Valley Authority and the state of Hawaii from the mandate.

The bill also calls for stronger energy efficiency standards for appliances and lighting and incentives for building more energy-efficient buildings. The bill bans the sale of 100-watt incandescent light bulbs by 2012 and requires that all bulbs be 300% more efficient than today’s ordinary bulbs by 2020. The bill also includes a range of loan guarantees, federal grants and tax breaks for alternative energy programs. These include building biomass factories, research into making ethanol from wood chips and switch grass and producing better batteries for hybrid cars.

The bill will repeal a tax break for oil companies from 2009, and another tax break relating to income from foreign oil production. Critics of the two tax breaks called them loopholes that the industry had taken advantage of.

The 786-page House energy bill does not include an increase in fuel-efficiency standards for cars and light trucks. That issue, as well as whether to force major increases in the use of E85 fuel as a substitute for gasoline, were left to be negotiated when the House bill is merged with energy legislation the Senate passed in June.

"There's a war going on against energy from fossil fuels" said Representative Ralph Hall, Republican-Texas. Representative Joe Barton predicted the bill "isn't going to go anywhere" because President Bush would veto it if it reaches his desk.

In a somewhat surprising comment from the White House, they accused the bill of making "no serious attempts to increase our energy security". This defies commonsense as by producing more electricity from domestic renewable sources rather than with imported natural gas by definition increases the United States' diversity and security of energy supply.

As with all legislation the details (such as a subsidy for installing gas pumps for expensive and inefficient E85 fuel) need to be checked carefully. Regardless a 15% renewable energy standard is good news, read more..

Canon Digital Cameras

Its saves on expenses and its really efficient.

Gift Registry

Wind power is one form of power supply that can help you save financially on your expenses.

Jay

The military adopting HHO gas is amazing. What this will do for the environment lowering the fossile fuels that we use. Using plates as a conductor not wires with HHO gas generators offers so much power for any vehicle. Cleaning the all old carbon deposits from even the oldest unmaintained engines. Using plates as a conductor can also save up to 40% gas. If you want to learn how to make a HHO generator using plates go to http://www.fuelwithh2o.com

Business Process Management Training

The reason for the tremendous commercial potential of hydrogen and fuel cells lies in the numerous benefits inherent to the technology..............

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Red wine and certain polyphenolic substances in red wine such as resveratrol may help prevent heart and arterial disease. According to the "French Paradox," moderate red wine consumption benefits the heart, increases levels of "good" cholesterol, protects against artery damage and fights free radicals.

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That should be use in all the states around the country is so good for the environment.

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It's good to know Missouri City goes 100% wind power. Windfarms are very useful. Aside from producing electricity, it's also part of the battle in reducing global warming.

home wind power

It's good to know that Missouri City goes 100% wind power. Wind power are really useful. Aside from producing electricity, it's also part of the battle in reducing global warming!

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This is a good start, but it will only work in small towns with a goodly amount of wind on a year round basis. Larger cities will need to look at other alternatives such a solar, geothermal or wave farms.

We already know we need to develop renewable energy to the point we can wean ourselves off of fossil fuels. It's a question of do we have the will?

Ron, IT Expert

The technology of wind turbines will get better just like personal computers and technology gadgets have.
Remember how big the first portable pc's?
We are going to look back at the 'old' large turbines and think the same thing.
Future generations turbines will surely increase manifold in output, efficiency and durability.

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