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Not dreams, physics. With the generator on the ground, it would seem to have a technical advantage over the Magenn design. Then again, maybe the Magenn is more stable.

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What I wonder about these sky turbines is how they are going to make sure that airplanes don't fly into the cables that connect them to the ground. Seems like there are actually very few places that have the requisite lack of air travel.

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What a weird contraption. I would guess it is going nowhere. Have you ever been fishing on the bank of a river between 20 other guys. It's tangle up city! Ha-ha. JohnBo

Drew

Planes can, and, already do, fly around power plants. The FAA might need a little pushing like any bureucracy, but I assure you, people care about affording electricity for the TV's and major appliances far more than they care about air travel. Also, it is not clear at all to me that air travel as we know it will still exist more than a decade or two from now due to rising oil prices.

As for tangles, remember that the sky is very large compared to anything man can build.

Greg Woulf

NOAA flies quite a few tethered balloons all the time and that doesn't cause problems.

The kites would be in constrained locations and the largest field would be a cone from the tether to the full length.

I'm not sure it's the best high altitude kite, but if it generates positive energy then I'm all for it.

Paul Dietz

NOAA flies quite a few tethered balloons all the time

Replacing 1/3 of the US electrical generation with such devices would require about 100,000 of them. I don't think NOAA is constantly flying 100,000 tethered balloons.

This has Rube Goldberg written all over it.

kim

Paul -- Rube Goldberg's contraptions were so effective that you still remember his name after all this time.
Any invention is weird in its first incarnation -- that's what they mean when they say it needs development.

Paul Dietz

Rube Goldberg's contraptions were so effective that you still remember his name after all this time.

Ah, so the purpose of these devices is to provide entertainment, not energy?

Nathan

Ah, so the purpose of these devices is to provide entertainment, not energy?

Here I am all this time entertaining myself with electricity. Cut one step out of the equation. T_T

Greg Woulf

100,000 or 1, you still have to have areas that are no fly. It's easier with a few larger fields than it would be with smaller scattered ones.

A field of 1,000 of these might take up 10 square miles. I don't know that this will work, but it won't be a little air space that will stop it.

I agree that it seems like something is wrong with the design. Something seems inefficient.

JohnBo

The reason this thing won’t work is physics. It has too many moving parts, the parts are light weight hence prone to wear, it depends on the wind, it produces little energy, it requires a constant speed governor or elaborate electronics to maintain 60 Hz power, etc. This all leads to high maintenance, short life and failure as a product. Forget it… Ha-ha. JohnBo

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Laddermill is to be congratulated on their demonstration. However, Prof. Bryan Roberts and his colleagues demonstrated a Flying Electric Generator over a decade ago in Australia.

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Pretty weird to say that you would need 100,000 kites, based on the power output of an early demonstrator.
The output of an individual kite can and will be increased, as is normal in going from demonstrator to production models.
They also do not need to fly at the altitude of cruising airplanes - anywhere above 800meters or so should be fine.
As for the 'delicate' nature of the technology, check out the kites shown in the video here to tow a ship:
http://skysails.info/index.php?L=1
They are putting a system on a 400foot ship this month.

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